Posts by breakfast of champions

THINGS PEOPLE IN THIS KINGDOM HALL WERE THINKING: Oh, dear! We are being attacked by agents of Satan! The Watchtower was right! [to selves praying "JEHOVAH, JEHOVAH, JEHOVAH!!!"]

THINGS PEOPLE IN THIS KINGDOM HALL WERE NOT THINKING: You know, everything they said made so much sense. They seemed quite reasonable, rational. I really should reexamine my beleifs.

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Are you an "out of the closet" atheist?

by rebel8 in

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i'm atheist and not ashamed of it.

however, it is so politically incorrect, especially where i live.

i have a legitimate concern that being out of the closet too much will hurt my career or neighborly relations--i know for a fact it probably would.. i'm really cautious about who i tell.. how about you?

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REBEL8 - maybe I'm wrong, but I thought you lived in NYC --- a place I would hardly consider atheist "unfriendly." I suppose there could be some neighborhoods with pockets of anti atheist sentiment. . . . Please set me straight if I'm wrong!

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A Breath of Fresh Air... (Spoiler Alert!)

by Gustv Cintrn in

hi!.

enjoy..... www.jw.org/en/news/releases/by-region/denmark/bloodless-surgery/.

gc.

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That is pretty amazing. It must mean that Jehovah's Witnesses are the only true religion.

What's kind of funny is how basically the witnesses contribution to bloodless surgery is that they make the perfect guinea pigs.

What they fail to mention is that the actual doctors and scientists who came up with bloodless procedures are members of false religion: Jews, Muslims, and "so-called Christians". . . .

I'm sure some of those docs are awful, terrible atheists as well!

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El, Baal and JHVH

by Doug Mason in

one of the most important sources that we have for the most ancient stages of the religion of israel are some epic texts about the gods of canaan that were found in an archaeological excavation in a place called ras shamra (ancient ugarit) early in the twentieth century.

these epics reveal a very rich ancient canaanite mythology, especially in the elaborated stories of the gods el and baal and their rivals and consorts.

while, of course, the israelite branch of the canaanite group partly defined itself through the rejection of this mythology, much of the imagery and narrative allusions that we find in the works of the israelite prophets, the psalms, and other biblical poetic texts are best illuminated through comparison with these ancient texts.

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Check this out later. . . ..

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Mass Slaughter of Animals in Hindu Festival

by cofty in

thousands of animals have been slaughtered at a religious ceremony in nepal.

the gadhimai festival takes place every 5 years.

apparently some imaginary deity can be bribed by the sight of blood.. before getting too judgemental does it remind you of anybody?.

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Speaking of Solomon. . . . .

One of my favorite parts of "Atheist's Book of Bible Stories." Here's an excerpt:

"SOLOMON, AND THE ISRAELITE ABATTOIR

King Solomon was a very devout man. He also liked to do things in big ways. Take, for example, the sacrifice that he offered up during a festival:

“Then the King and all the people offered sacrifice before the LORD. King Solomon offered as a sacrifice twenty-two thousand oxen and a hundred and twenty thousand sheep.” - 2 Chronicles 7:4,5

Now, let’s pause for a moment and let these numbers sink in. According to verse 9, this festival lasted seven days. That means that one animal was killed every 4.3 seconds, day and night, for a week.

Let’s look at it another way. According to the Encyclopedia Britannica, an adult sheep would weigh between 80 and 400 pounds. Let’s take an average size of 200 pounds. Oxen come it at around 900 pounds. This means that Solomon slaughtered 43.8 million pounds of animals.

This would be a pretty big pile of animal. If the animal carcasses were stacked, with no wasted space, it would make a pile of 3.9 million cubic feet, or, a pile 5 feet high, covering 18 acres."

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Mass Slaughter of Animals in Hindu Festival

by cofty in

thousands of animals have been slaughtered at a religious ceremony in nepal.

the gadhimai festival takes place every 5 years.

apparently some imaginary deity can be bribed by the sight of blood.. before getting too judgemental does it remind you of anybody?.

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Wow. I would love to share this with my BIL.

Animal sacrifice to Hindu god - disgusting and immoral.

Animal sacrifice to Hebrew God - Oh what a sweet-smelling odor ascending to Jehovahs nostrils!

BTW - I could imagine a future Jehovahs Trumpet article on this!

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Any elders out there? How to Local needs talks work?

by Letts Party in

so a local needs talk was lovingly given at our hall last week that i'm positive targeted me specifically.

it had to do with missing meetings for work.

they even had a demo on what we should do if our boss asks us to stay overtime on a meeting night (basically say "no" and risk losing your great job which you have no desire whatsoever to lose)... so i'm aware that there's a sort of protocol the elders follow when someone in the hall needs to work on something.

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When I was a kid/young teen-ish, people were getting DFd left-and-right for "fornication."

How would I know that?

The announcement of the DF was made, and right after - sometimes that very night or a week later -- a "local needs" was given by the PO on fornication.

In fact, this particular PO became known for these guilt-inducing local needs talks. Hell, I hadn't even seen a naked woman or kissed a girl and I felt guilty by the end of these talks.

Funny, though, is that when this PO was eventually DF'd for cheating on his wife, there was no local needs on "adultery."

Local needs exposing your private "sins" if your just a crummy ol' publisher; silence when it's the PO. Funny how that works, eh?

Also funny how the society finds it impossible to warn the congregation that someone was DFd for being a child molester. . . . . We always knew who was fornicating. . .. . .

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Leave it in Jehovah's Hands - Your thoughts?

by berrygerry in

leave it in jehovah's hands.

is there a more disgusting phrase in jw land?.

the abuse, harms, thefts, suicides, family destruction - leave it in jehovah's hands.. why would anyone with a more than 2 neurons say, "oh that makes sense," we do not need to change or intervene in any way.. sooner or later, god will take of things.. .

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If the WTS believed that they wouldn't need the bank of lawyers they have.

BLONDIE already summed up my sentiments exactly.

If you're the victim, Wait on Jehovah, i.e. Do nothing and shut up.

If you're us, use all the legal firepower at your disposal to fight it.